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Bigpond Cable Liberty Elite Switch Bigpond Cable Ultimate

Have envied Melbourne for some time due to their access to 100Mb Cable service where available and became very interested in December 2011 when reading a press release that the 100Mb plans were to be released in other cities including Sydney very soon.

Decided to check what the status was in the second week of January 2012 and realised it was already available!
Called up right away to organise switching from an existing Bigpond Cable Liberty Elite 50Gb per month plan @ $69.95 with an associated additional Telstra service (copper POTS land line @$22.95pm) [total $92.90 pm] to the new Bigpond Cable Ultimate 200 Gb per month for 24 months including line rental.

Ran the postcode check which returned the following;

Congratulations – this offer may be available in your area.

Please call 1800 330 192, the offer ends on 27 February 2012.

BigPond Cable Broadband Bundle Deal – Save $10 a month Offer

Save $10 per month on the Telstra Complete Home™ Saver 200GB Bundle in SELECTED AREAS

Limited time only: ENDS ON 27th February 2011

  • 200GB FOR $78/MTH FOR 24 MONTHS INCLUDING LINE RENTAL
  • No peak/off peak restrictions
  • Ultra fast, reliable cable broadband
  • Professionally installed Home Network Gateway modem if you don't already have one. Existing BigPond Cable customers may need to purchase a new Home Network Gateway for $149 to access Ultimate Cable speeds
  • 24/7 BigPond Technical Support (133 933 or online)
  • Bundled services all on a Single Bill

Offer available in BigPond® Cable areas to new customers and customers with a 13-digit account number who take up a new Bundle. Existing Bundle customers are not eligible.

Bundle monthly price (for 24 months)   $88.00
Home phone plan HomeLine® Budget
Usage allowance 200GB
Discounted monthly bundle price (for 24 months) $78.00
Minimum cost for 24 months – including new Home Network Gateway for existing BigPond Cable customers upgrading to Ultimate Cable $2,021 (plus usage and $9.95 delivery)

Things you need to know
The BigPond Cable Broadband Bundle Deal – Save $10 per month offer is available in BigPond Cable areas and includes $10 monthly discount on the Telstra Complete Home Saver 200GB Bundle. The discount will be removed if you cancel your bundle or your bundle ends.
Usage means monthly combined upload and download data transfer. 1 Gigabyte = 1,000 Megabytes. Unused usage allowance expires each month.
This plan requires paperless billing and electronic payment. This involves receiving an Email Bill or accessing your bill Online and paying your bill via Direct Debit, BPAY, telstra.com, over the phone, Centrepay or with a Bill Assistance Certificate. Paper billing and/or non-electronic payment options are available for a $2 (including GST) fee which will be applied a month in arrears if you receive a paper bill and/or make a bill payment in person or via mail. Some exemptions apply. To set up Email Bill, visit telstra.com.au/emailbill. To set up Direct Debit or for information on other bill payment options, visit telstra.com.au/billpay

Great lets get this 100MB!!!

This task took several phone calls and a bit of time but finally it was confirmed that everything was set up and the required modem router for an additional $149.00 was on the way. Waited another couple of days then started checking the post box = nothing arrived.

Had already been checking the account status online everyday but still no change.

Phoned Telstra after a week to check the order was locked in and under-way and was assured in no uncertain terms that it was and would be around a week to complete.

Nothing.

Posted this on the Telstra Crowd "Support" forums after a week had passed;

"Is there an average time frame for existing customers on Cable Elite to be switched over after applying? We made an application to switch from Elite to Ultimate 8 days ago and still no modem or any changes or updates in "My Bigpond".

Noticed elsewhere on these forums that others receive modems in 3 days.Is there an average time frame for existing customers on Cable Elite to be switched over after applying? We made an application to switch from Elite to Ultimate 8 days ago and still no modem or any changes or updates in "My Bigpond".

Have phoned to check if the switch is actually under-way and told it is in the system but there are "problems with the way the first person started to set up the switch". Was given an estimate of about a week but could not find out if that was from the time of last call or from initial switch application. Due to the multiple phone calls and internal call transfers required to get the switch from Elite to Ultimate under-way last week I just have a feeling that there may be nothing happening?"

Nothing...

Posted this on the Telstra Crowd "Support" forum the following week;

"As I feared.

  • Applied to upgrade from $69.95 per month BP Elite Liberty 50GB Cable on the 11/01/2012 = several phone calls
  • The new ultimate plan is to be $78.00 per month for 24 months including 200GB per month and HomeLine Budget
  • A new home Gateway is meant to be supplied for $149.00
  • Rang Telstra to enquire a week later on the 17th or 18th to check the switch order is still under-way and told a week approx.
  • Now recieved a new bill generated last week on the 18th as follows:
  • HomeLine Budget $22.95
  • Bigpond Elite Liberty 50GB Cable 11 Jan to 13 Jan $7.737 (3 days)
  • Bigpond Elite Liberty 50GB Cable 14 Jan to 13 Feb $79.95 (31 days)
  • Bigpond Usage 0 MB $0.00
  • Bigpond Full Service Fixed Phone Credit - 11 Jan to 13 Jan $10.968 (nice ratio for 3 days!)
  • Total new charges $99.669

So basically been charged for the next month at the old plan/s rate, no new modem has been sent out and the plan details online are still the old plan.

Would there be any Telstra reps on these forums who might be able to sort this out. From this end all that seems to have been done is bundle the phone and cable on the one bill?"

Nothing...

Phoned Telstra the next morning and subsequently responded to self on the Telstra Crowd "Support" forum;

"Shall respond to myself then..

Made another call to Telstra today spanning 23 minutes 32 seconds.

This now totals 93 minutes and 17 seconds across 6 separate phone calls.

Telstra person confirmed the switch had not been set up.

Telstra person informed me the Bigpond Cable Ultimate Plan required a professional install due to the "new technology".

After the Telstra person was told that was not correct and that I had been required to organise the cabling myself after the last "professional install" they went away to check, placing me on hold.

Returned and confirmed professional install not required and proceeded to set up the switch that was started 13 days ago, and confirmed that it was actually under-way.

Another Telstra person had confirmed the switch was definitely under-way 7 days ago???

Now... Drum roll the online Bigpond account status states when a plan change is attempted:

"You're scheduled to change to another plan on 24 Jan 2012. Now that it's scheduled, you can't cancel or modify this change but if this plan isn't right, you can change to another plan during your next bill period which starts on 09 Feb 2012." "

93 minutes on the phone so far. Really hope this 100MB will catch up that lost time. Every other telco and isp I have dealt with Do Not want you to call them. I have dealt with at least 20 other ISP's and Telcos and never had to waste a second on the phone talking to them or on HOLD or answering stupid performance questions after the call. Who is the idiot that thought post phone call performance questions up? I even hung up before completing one of the post call performance surveys and I was called the next day to complete it! I worked over 17 hours yesterday and do not doubt earned way less than a Telstra call centre operator. I wasted 1.552833333 hours this month already on the phone simply trying to switch an existing Bigpond Cable Liberty Elite plan to the Ultimate Plan?


Comments

Default Netgear Password

The default login for most Netgear routers I have encountered is "admin" in the user field and "password" is the password.

At least change the password and bear in mind that the versions loaded with Bigpond firmware are currently failing to accept passwords with special characters.

Speed Tests

Typical Bigpond cable liberty speed test results.

Bigpond Cable Liberty Elite speed test result

Good stats!

Typical good ADSL2 connection by comparison that is around 1300 metres from exchange.

Exetel ADSL2 speed test result

Still No Upgrade

Recieved a letter from Telstra today welcoming us to our new bundle. Here is the problem with this.

  • My last phone call attempt to get the current Liberty plan switched to Ultimate was the 24-01-2012
  • The first was 3  weeks ago on the 11th Jan 2012
  • This most recent letter is dated the 29-01-2012
  • This most recent letter confirms we have been moved to a 200Gb Liberty Plan for 24 months at $88.00, not the Ultimate plan.
  • We applied to move from the Liberty plan to the Ultimate plan which includes HomeLine Budget for $78.00 per month
  • The last bill recieved dated the 18th Jan 2012 stated that we have been moved to bundled Liberty 50GB and HomeLine Budget at $92.50, $0.40 saving
  • Just on the phone to Telstra right now and told by Leigh who initially did not even verify who I was as an account holder that it is NOT POSSIBLE for existing customers to upgrade to the 3.0 Ultimate it is only for NEW customers. After things began to get heated because I said this was not correct I was informed that I would have to PAY to upgrade the modem. HELLO I have asked for this modem to be sent out for the $149 or what ever it is during EVERY single phone call and provided the alternative PO Box mailing address on 3 seperate occasions now.
  • Leigh also claimed that I should not rely on anything that was posted on the net including Telstra Crowd Support forums because it is just another forum and not official Telstra.
  • I have now been told that the last person on the 24th Jan 2012 did not organise the modem ALTHOUGH he specifically took the alternative PO Box postal address down for the modem and advised that it should arrive in around 7 days.
  • Have been placed on hold while Leigh goes and organises a 3.0 modem, if there was an alternative 3.0 cable modem source I would easily pay double to avoid this waste of time.
  • In the meantime while Leigh has me on "hold" I have called Telstra again from another number which was eventually answered by Josh who properly identified me and has placed me on hold to talk to activations.
  • Josh beat Leigh and came back to me stating that I had called earlier and the person I had been speaking to had organised the modem to be sent out.
  • I asked Josh, "In that case why does Leigh still have me on hold?" Josh informed me that Leigh actually works in the same call centre and is on another call.
  • I stated that I was still on hold from the previous call which at that time was approaching 59 minutes and I was still listening to the same hold music in stereo!
  • I was placed on hold again and then suddenly the first call terminated approximatley 30 minutes after I was placed on hold by Leigh and over an hour after first calling. Josh handled the call in 22 minutes and 44 seconds including initial extended call hold time with hold music in stereo.
  • Anyway I have been told yet again that the docis 3.0 modem has been ordered and will be recieved in 3 - 5 days. Unfortunatley I did not have the opportunity to change the mailing address to the PO Box so that will add 2 days, if it is actually on its way...
  • Confirming that call centre person 2 confirmed that call centre person 1 "who did not identify who the actual caller was apart from taking the account number" confirmed that call centre person 1 had organised the modem to be sent out. If anyone gets an additional modem sent out to them it might be ours!
    ..

Time Wasted

Update the time wasted trying to organise services from Telstra to more than 3 hours this month now

Every time I have had a Telstra "bundled deal" it has been a nightmare of incorrect billing mistakes and have wasted hours each month on the phone.

Was finally lured back into a bundle deal simply for the 3.0 speed and the karma has been negative from the start and has degraded further with almost every interaction.

Being placed on hold for over 30 minutes by Telstra call centre person and then disconnected after they argued about what is advertised on official Telstra sites is simply rude and immature.

If it was going to be a month OK. 3 months and $200 OK. a year and $375 no problem. About a week evertime you call and then nothing and 3 hours on the phone over the 3 weeks with each time returning to "START" begins to get really annoying, which makes me very determined!.

Calling Date Calling

Calling
Date
Calling
From
Calling
To
Destination Duration Charges
(AUD)
2012-02-01 18:16:57 02x00x0xxx 6121800330192 Australia - Special - Australian 1800 00:58:27 $0.00

Meanwhile



2012-02-01 18:52:12
xxxxxxxxxx 02x00xx0xx 611800330192 611800330192 00:22:44 $0 Premium 000.000.00.00@sip.xxx.com internetphone xxxxxxxx-1

What does this mean?

  • At 18:16:57 the first call commenced
  • 35 minutes into that call while on hold it was realalised that the operator had no intention of returning to the call
  • At 18:52:12 the second call commenced while remaining on hold with the first call
  • Call 2 registered just over 30 minutes in call records terminating around 19.16
  • Call one was active for 58 minutes terminating around  19:16 !!!!!!!!!!!

Last 58 minutes wasted

Finally started discussing these issues with Telstra reps on the Telstra Crowd Support forums later last night and today.

It seems that both the 58 minute phone call and the 22 minute phone call last night only made things even worse and we were moved to a 5 Gig plan!

Hopefully it is all fixed this time and we will have the new modem and plan in the next week or so.

Sorted By Crowd Support

spoke with Telstra crowd support on Thursday who looked into these issues cancelled all the correct orders that had been input previously and set up the order correctly. Australia Post attempted to deliver the modem the very next day on Friday. At a couple of days delay plus the weekend with the card coming from the post office receive the modem on Tuesday.

BigPond cable ultimate speed test result Sydney

Nice speed although the Netgear wireless cable voice Gateway  CG3100 modem router is a little disappointing in that the Telstra Bigpond installed firmware does not seem to include VoIP settings even though there are two VoIP ports and the Netgear product information specification indicates two VoIP ports. I have seen other Telstra big Pond cable modems suitable for liberty plans that include VoIP. The other thing is noticeable at this stage is a reboot of the modem seems to take a long time before service is restored. at this stage I think additional Routers with the functionality that is required will be parked behind the netgear for added security and functionality.